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	<title>Comments on: Michael Sandel &#8211; and finding the transcendent moment in debate</title>
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		<title>By: Obama as Community Organiser : Connected Communities</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] people can disagree about such issues without disrespecting each other, which sounds obvious, but as Mathew Taylor indicated at the Sandel talk, it is rare for people for agree about what they disagree about, and, by [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] people can disagree about such issues without disrespecting each other, which sounds obvious, but as Mathew Taylor indicated at the Sandel talk, it is rare for people for agree about what they disagree about, and, by [...]</p>
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		<title>By: matthewtaylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>matthewtaylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Will

That is what I meant to say. It is what I mean by the moment &#039;when we agree about what we disagree about&#039;. I  must have expressed myself very badly.  Another blow to the old self esteem!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Will</p>
<p>That is what I meant to say. It is what I mean by the moment &#8216;when we agree about what we disagree about&#8217;. I  must have expressed myself very badly.  Another blow to the old self esteem!</p>
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		<title>By: matthewtaylor</title>
		<link>http://www.matthewtaylorsblog.com/thersa/michael-sandel-and-finding-the-transcendent-moment-in-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-3446</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mick. I agree</description>
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		<title>By: Mick Yates</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mick Yates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 23:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is striking that Michael&#039;s main skill is to get people to think for themselves, in an age where so many people try to persuade us that we should think as they do.

In my many years of traveling and working around the world, I have long thought that we are more the same than we are different - so the best way to communicate and to work together is to find the common ground.

I still believe this fundamentally true - yet somehow Michael manages to pose a question that we have in common yet it can lead to different answers.

Fascinating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is striking that Michael&#8217;s main skill is to get people to think for themselves, in an age where so many people try to persuade us that we should think as they do.</p>
<p>In my many years of traveling and working around the world, I have long thought that we are more the same than we are different &#8211; so the best way to communicate and to work together is to find the common ground.</p>
<p>I still believe this fundamentally true &#8211; yet somehow Michael manages to pose a question that we have in common yet it can lead to different answers.</p>
<p>Fascinating.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Davies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Davies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But it is so very rare for our mainstream politicians to agree about what they disagree about. Instead they say the other guy believes what he believes because he is bad, or stupid, or dishonest or ideologically blinkered.&quot;

I thought you were going to say almost the opposite, namely that contemporary British politicians resist explicit divergences of values and goals altogether. Politicians now claw over the identical goals, language and values (&#039;hard working families&#039;, &#039;community&#039;, &#039;inclusion&#039;, &#039;enterprise&#039; etc), then accuse their opponents of being thwarted by incompetence and/or disingenuousness.  

The &#039;culture wars&#039; in the US create a very different context. Liberals and conservatives are divided on substantive ethical questions, meaning that politicians must either take a side or avoid having an opinion at all. Obama&#039;s ambition has been to develop a unifying political vocabulary, but already we&#039;ve seen how quickly this becomes undermined by real political conflicts. 

A &#039;transcendent moment&#039; in British political debate might be when two opposing sides suddenly discover and accept that they want incompatible things. Imagine how exciting that would be!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But it is so very rare for our mainstream politicians to agree about what they disagree about. Instead they say the other guy believes what he believes because he is bad, or stupid, or dishonest or ideologically blinkered.&#8221;</p>
<p>I thought you were going to say almost the opposite, namely that contemporary British politicians resist explicit divergences of values and goals altogether. Politicians now claw over the identical goals, language and values (&#8216;hard working families&#8217;, &#8216;community&#8217;, &#8216;inclusion&#8217;, &#8216;enterprise&#8217; etc), then accuse their opponents of being thwarted by incompetence and/or disingenuousness.  </p>
<p>The &#8216;culture wars&#8217; in the US create a very different context. Liberals and conservatives are divided on substantive ethical questions, meaning that politicians must either take a side or avoid having an opinion at all. Obama&#8217;s ambition has been to develop a unifying political vocabulary, but already we&#8217;ve seen how quickly this becomes undermined by real political conflicts. </p>
<p>A &#8216;transcendent moment&#8217; in British political debate might be when two opposing sides suddenly discover and accept that they want incompatible things. Imagine how exciting that would be!</p>
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